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Post by Kat on Jan 9, 2022 20:09:22 GMT -5
What's an example of something that should currently be reviewed? I mean this in decisions or actions of staff or the priority of development. We can't change your priority for development, but we could hold more community meetings and see what more people want overall and focus on that and even then still keep in touch so it isn't like new points of development come out and people are asking "Why?". As for staff, there is one or two instances when they made a decision that was proclaimed as a "Staff Decision." and got a lot of push back. If you recognize that making the decision will require an explanation to validate it in the face of the players. If more community meetings are what people want, then sure! We aren't on a set schedule or saying no to this. Keeping touch in the meantime is hard and I will admit mailbox and I do not make regular use of the devblog. Sometimes it's hard because we get sucked into a coding vortex and then just come out 8 hours later not knowing what time it is or where we are but we have this finished 'thing' to present. Other times it might be hard because whatever we're doing doesn't necessarily have something that's easily 'show-and-tell'. Like it'll just be a wall of code. The staff decision/pushback: are we talking about the conflict rules? If we take it away are we suddenly going to be able to trust everyone and everyone will trust each other? Because otherwise, to be 100% transparent, taking away conflict rules means we as staff have to constantly address metagaming reports that come in with no surefire evidence. & it is extremely rare to get clear-cut evidence that meta happened. If we aren't talking about conflict rules I need an example again. Or it's something we can just discuss out loud during a CM. |
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Post by ascendz on Jan 9, 2022 20:18:19 GMT -5
Staff conduct and lack of repercussions for rule breaks in RP. For example staff members blatantly breaking rules and facing no consequences. Ex: On stream using the Z menu to see who is in the server and using that information to change their actions(Meta Gaming). Staff members openly talking shit about the players on server because they know they won't face repercussions. Staff members running people out of the server because they (staff members) dislike losing power in RP and end up powergaming or committing other rule breaks (which do not get punished). Staff is one of the main problems because staff refuses to address glaring issues with abuse and rule breaks. Here's my addressing this. Do you think there's a lack of repercussions bc you aren't seeing a public hanging in the town square? Staff were warned against using the /who menu for anything other than admin action. If I get shown a clip of it happening after that warning I'd make a whole deal out of it, but I never have. Dont know what 2nd example means. I wasn't involved I guess. 3rd 'losing power in rp' I have to ask if this is your grudge against the /job stuff in relation to the Ballas where you were specifically told that it was a manager ability and had nothing to do with whether someone was staff/not staff? Otherwise I'm not too sure what you're talking about. & if it is idk what else to tell you besides reiterating it had nothing to do with a staff/admin command. Like I said I think there is a false perception some have that nothing is being done because you don't get to sit and watch someone get reprimanded in front of you. And if that's what you need to feel justified and let go of the grudge, I'm afraid you aren't going to ever see it here. Sorry. We are a normal staff team and have our discussions and fights in staff chat where it belongs, so that we can come to the players as 1 body with 1 end decision. But I can promise you no one is running around unchecked. Im not going to address any of the PD stuff because that is all IC grievance and for that you have to be the change you want to see in the ingame world. I'm biased bc I like kev, but as our current judge I don't think he purposefully lets anything slide. He deals with whatever get put in front of him. Thanks for highlighting every issue. Take a hard look at yourselves as staff and ask if TS is actually an enjoyable place to be. Ignoring issues as staff will always end in the death of a server. Thanks for the good times ya'll |
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Post by ragstobitches on Jan 11, 2022 11:48:03 GMT -5
I also agree with your last paragraph, there is a hard disconnect between staff to player and then whomever to mailbox and the Dev team at large. Mailbox said this himself in that community meeting that one time: If it isn't reported I can't know about it. it is the sad reality we play in but it seems there needs to be maybe a better liaison for the staff to player relations, perhaps one of the helpers could be a PUBLIC RELATIONS MAYNE. I feel like they can be the middle man so mailbox knows what is going on the ground while also the helper being in the server on the daily. Why does it need to be helpers? If you feels there's a disconnect about something then here and now is the perfect time to detail out what you mean by that instead of just shoving it off onto someone else. Where is the disconnect? Please don't take this the wrong way at all, but as snarky as this may sound; If you gotta ask me where the disconnect is then that ultimately means that you are out of the loop and that in it of itself is the disconnect. I have already outlined what underlying issues tend to be upfront. There are Restrictions on how to do things within the city, not just gameplay mechanics wise but in terms of role-play. When things in RP don't go a certain way staff get involved and it is just like what matt said, I don't wanna qoute him because I can't see his post mid typing this but, it was something along the lines of the staff don't have an apparent knowledge of the situation at hand. Like I said about Mailbox applies to the Staff to, you all only know what happens only if something is reported to you, then in the ticket it becomes a he/she said thing with clips and who can type the bigger paragraphs etc etc. My reason for saying get the Helpers to be a Liason is because there are borderline already that, just getting them to drop nuggets of informations up the chain of command is not that hard of a task or perhaps something relative easy to do. I speak from experience in this case as I used to run my own community, I personally feel like that the way that the staff team currently handles staffing feels a bit lack luster and mis-informed on situations, not to mention very interesting interpretations skills, I say one thing the staff gets another. (Then again talking to me is hard to follow, but that is neither here nor there). |
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Post by ragstobitches on Jan 11, 2022 11:55:53 GMT -5
The quote in question was: Added to that point, the staff were NEVER active so their viewpoint would never make sense when evaluating anything going on in the server.
To underscore what I had said about staff not having apparent knowledge of the situations in game.
You however probably know more than most but sadly it is like mailbox said yall can't get on no more due to you all having Kids/IRL dealings and what not, My Suggestion to that issue is: GET MORE STAFF.
Make the *Moderators* **ADMINS** and have the Helpers go thru a training program and make them the new moderators, I suppose that would be the most logical form of transition of power to be honest. You already trust them with these minor commands such as handcuffing ppl magically I suppose so why not Evolve them to be better help to you and the community as a whole, not to mention they get into the city more frequently than most.
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